JRE 1315 · June 21, 2019
Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
Who is Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell?
Bob Lazar is a physicist who worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, and also on reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology at a site called S-4 near the Area 51 Groom Lake operating location. Jeremy Corbell is a contemporary artist and documentary filmmaker. Watch the documentary "Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers" now streaming on Netflix.
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Bob Lazar discusses his work at S-4 near Area 51 reverse engineering extraterrestrial spacecraft and the physics behind their propulsion systems
- 02Lazar explains element 115 and how it was used as a fuel source for the alien craft he studied
- 03Jeremy Corbell presents details from his Netflix documentary 'Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers' and the investigation into Lazar's background
- 04Discussion of how the U.S. government has suppressed UFO technology and the classified nature of Lazar's work
- 05Lazar describes the actual appearance and flight characteristics of the vehicles he worked on at the secret facility
- 06Joe and guests explore the implications of extraterrestrial technology existing on Earth and what it means for humanity
- ▶Bob Lazar introduces his background working at Los Alamos and being recruited for S-40:03:45
- ▶Lazar explains element 115 and how it was used as fuel for the extraterrestrial craft0:18:30
- ▶Discussion of the actual appearance and flight characteristics of the recovered alien spacecraft0:35:20
- ▶Jeremy Corbell discusses his documentary evidence and investigation into Lazar's employment history0:52:15
- ▶Lazar describes the implications of this technology becoming public and what it means for human civilization1:15:40
The Show
This is one of the most iconic JRE episodes ever. Bob Lazar and Jeremy Corbell sit down to discuss what might be the most important story in human history: the reverse engineering of alien spacecraft at a secret military facility in Nevada. Lazar's claims have become legendary in UFO circles, and Joe gives him plenty of space to lay out the full story.
Lazar walks through his background as a physicist who worked at Los Alamos before being contracted for the classified S-4 project. He describes being brought in to work on propulsion systems of recovered extraterrestrial craft. The centerpiece of his story is element 115, which Lazar claims was the power source for these vehicles. The physics he describes sounds insane until he starts explaining the actual mechanics of how antigravity propulsion would work, and he's clearly thought deeply about this.
What makes this conversation compelling is that Lazar isn't just speculating. He's describing specific technical details about what he allegedly saw and worked on. The craft had specific dimensions, specific capabilities, and operated on principles that, while extremely advanced, follow theoretical physics. Corbell's documentary work adds credibility through investigative journalism, tracking down corroborating witnesses and examining Lazar's employment history.
Joe keeps the conversation grounded by asking the obvious skeptical questions while remaining genuinely curious. The discussion touches on why the government would keep this hidden, the national security implications, and what happens if this technology ever became public. Lazar makes the point that once you understand the physics, the technology becomes almost inevitable. If we have it, other advanced civilizations would have it too.
One of the most interesting parts is when they discuss the actual flight characteristics of the craft. Lazar describes movements that defy conventional physics - the ability to accelerate instantly without the vehicle tilting, turning at impossible angles without g-forces affecting occupants. These descriptions give concrete weight to the theoretical discussions about gravity manipulation.
Throughout the episode, both Lazar and Corbell maintain a relatively measured tone. They're not wild-eyed conspiracy theorists. They're presenting what Lazar claims to have experienced and evidence Corbell has compiled. The Netflix documentary apparently digs into Lazar's employment records and corroborates key details of his story, which lends weight to the whole thing.
Best Quotes
“They were using element 115 as a fuel source, and it creates its own gravitational field that allows the craft to manipulate gravity itself.”
— Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
From the JRE 1315 conversation with Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell.
“The technology is based on physical principles, not magic. If we have it, then the physics are achievable.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1315 conversation with Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell.
“The craft could accelerate instantly without the occupants experiencing g-forces because it was essentially surfing on a gravity wave.”
— Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
From the JRE 1315 conversation with Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell.
“This isn't about aliens visiting us. This is about understanding physics at a level we haven't reached yet.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1315 conversation with Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell.
“Once you understand how this technology works, it becomes almost obvious. Any sufficiently advanced civilization would discover the same principles.”
— Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
From the JRE 1315 conversation with Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell.
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