JRE 1393 · December 5, 2019
James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate
Who is James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate?
James Wilks is a retired mixed martial artist. He was the winner of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom. He is also a producer of the documentary "The Game Changers" on Netflix. Chris Kresser, M.S., L.Ac is a globally recognized leader in the fields of ancestral health, Paleo nutrition, and functional and integrative medicine. Link to notes from this podcast by Chris Kresser: http://kresser.co/gamechangers
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Joe Rogan sits down with James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate for an in-depth conversation.
The Show
# JRE #1393 Recap: The Game Changers Debate
Joe Rogan brought together two of the most compelling voices in nutrition and athletic performance for a head-to-head discussion that cut to the heart of one of the most controversial documentaries in recent memory. On December 5, 2019, retired mixed martial artist James Wilks sat down alongside functional medicine practitioner Chris Kresser to debate the claims made in "The Game Changers," the Netflix documentary that had sparked heated discussions across the fitness and nutrition communities.
Wilks brought considerable credibility to the conversation. As the winner of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom, he had established himself as a legitimate competitor at the highest levels of mixed martial arts. Beyond his fighting credentials, Wilks served as a producer on "The Game Changers," positioning him as both a subject of the documentary and an architect of its message. His dual role as athlete and filmmaker gave him unique insight into the project's intentions and conclusions.
Across the table sat Chris Kresser, whose expertise spans ancestral health, Paleo nutrition, and functional and integrative medicine. Holding a Master's degree and credentials as a Licensed Acupuncturist, Kresser had established himself as a globally recognized leader in these fields. His reputation for rigorous analysis made him an ideal counterpoint to the documentary's claims. Notably, Kresser had compiled detailed notes on the episode, indicating he came prepared with specific critiques and evidence.
The episode represented a rare opportunity for two intelligent, informed individuals with competing perspectives to engage in substantive debate rather than talking past one another. Wilks came with the perspective of an athlete who had experienced transformation through dietary changes, while Kresser brought the analytical lens of a medical professional trained in evaluating nutritional science.
"The Game Changers" had generated significant controversy in wellness circles, with some praising its message about plant-based nutrition for athletic performance while others questioned the selectivity of its science and the strength of its claims. This episode gave both sides the platform to make their case directly, with Joe Rogan moderating what became a genuine exploration of the evidence.
The conversation demonstrated why this debate mattered beyond academic interest. Athletic performance, nutrition science, and health outcomes affect millions of people making dietary decisions based on films like "The Game Changers." The stakes involved real choices about what people eat and how they train.
What made this episode particularly valuable was its format. Rather than Wilks or Kresser speaking at length in isolation, they could respond to each other directly, challenge claims in real time, and explore the nuances that often get lost in polarized discussions. This allowed for a more complete picture of both the documentary's arguments and the scientific critiques leveled against it.
The December 2019 episode captured a pivotal moment when plant-based nutrition for athletes was gaining mainstream attention through streaming platforms, yet remained contested among nutrition professionals. By bringing these two figures together, Rogan created space for the conversation to transcend simple advocacy and enter genuine intellectual territory.