JRE 1402 · December 17, 2019

Boyan Slat

technologyenvironmentbusinessscience

Who is Boyan Slat?

Boyan Slat is an inventor, entrepreneur and former aerospace engineering student. He is the founder of The Ocean Cleanup organization: https://www.theoceancleanup.com/

Topics and Timestamps

  • 01Boyan Slat founded The Ocean Cleanup at age 18 after learning about plastic in the ocean during a diving trip in Greece
  • 02The organization uses passive systems that let ocean currents do the work rather than actively chasing plastic patches
  • 03They've deployed cleanup systems in rivers and oceans, removing tons of plastic waste before it reaches the sea
  • 04The technology is designed to be scalable and cost-effective, focusing on practical engineering solutions
  • 05River cleanup is actually more efficient than ocean cleanup because most plastic comes from rivers flowing into the ocean
  • 06Slat discusses the business model, funding challenges, and how to turn environmental problems into solvable engineering challenges
  • Boyan explains how he discovered the ocean plastic problem while diving in Greece as a teenager0:02:30
  • Discussion of The Ocean Cleanup's passive system approach using ocean currents instead of active collection0:08:45
  • Boyan reveals why river cleanup is actually more efficient than open ocean cleanup0:18:20
  • Joe and Boyan discuss the economics and scalability of making plastic removal a viable business0:35:15
  • Conversation about the total amount of plastic in the ocean and whether current efforts actually make a dent0:48:30

The Show

Joe brings on Boyan Slat, the young entrepreneur and engineer who started The Ocean Cleanup organization after witnessing plastic pollution firsthand while diving in Greece at age 17. What started as a school project has evolved into a legitimate operation removing thousands of tons of plastic from the world's waterways.

Slat explains the core insight behind his approach: rather than trying to actively hunt down and collect floating plastic patches in the ocean like conventional cleanup methods, The Ocean Cleanup uses passive systems that leverage natural ocean currents. The technology acts like a funnel, letting the ocean's natural movements concentrate plastic in specific areas where it can be collected more efficiently. It's a fundamentally different engineering approach than what most people imagine when they think about cleaning up the ocean.

One of the most interesting parts of the conversation is when Slat pivots to river cleanup, which might seem counterintuitive but makes total sense when you think about it. Most ocean plastic comes from rivers in the first place, so preventing it from reaching the ocean is way more efficient than trying to fish it out after it's scattered across thousands of square miles. They've deployed systems in rivers across multiple continents, which is honestly more tractable and measurable.

Joe and Slat dig into the practical challenges of scaling this technology, the funding landscape for environmental startups, and how you actually turn a good idea into something that works in the real world. There's solid discussion about materials, durability, cost per ton of plastic removed, and whether the economics ever actually work out. Slat comes across as thoughtful but pragmatic, not some wide-eyed idealist but someone genuinely wrestling with how to make environmental cleanup a real business.

The conversation touches on the enormity of the problem, different ocean gyres, and the psychological aspect of why people care more about cute animals than abstract pollution. There's real talk about whether any of this actually matters at scale given how much plastic continues to enter the system every day. It's the kind of episode where you're genuinely unsure if you're hearing about the future or listening to someone with an impossible dream, and that tension makes it compelling.

Best Quotes

I was diving in Greece and I realized that there's more plastic bags than fish

Boyan Slat

From the JRE 1402 conversation with Boyan Slat.

We're not going to chase the plastic. We're going to let the ocean bring the plastic to us

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 1402 conversation with Boyan Slat.

Most of the ocean plastic comes from rivers, so we should focus there first

Boyan Slat

From the JRE 1402 conversation with Boyan Slat.

The problem is solvable, it's just engineering

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 1402 conversation with Boyan Slat.

People care more about a dead whale than they care about a million tons of plastic

Boyan Slat

From the JRE 1402 conversation with Boyan Slat.

Mentioned in This Episode

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The Ocean Cleanup

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An organization that designs and deploys systems to remove plastic from rivers and oceans using passive collection technology.

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