JRE 1517 · July 30, 2020
Nancy Panza
Who is Nancy Panza?
Nancy Panza, Ph.D, is a Professor of Psychology at Cal State Fullerton. She has also worked within county, state, and federal facilities providing clinical and forensic services for juvenile and adult offenders and has provided services for police departments in New York City, Alabama, and Southern California.
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Nancy Panza discusses her extensive experience working with juvenile and adult offenders across county, state, and federal facilities
- 02The conversation covers forensic psychology and how psychological assessment is used in criminal justice systems
- 03Panza shares insights from her work with police departments in New York City, Alabama, and Southern California
- 04Discussion touches on the psychology behind criminal behavior and what drives people to commit crimes
- 05The episode explores her academic work as a Professor of Psychology at Cal State Fullerton
- 06Panza discusses rehabilitation approaches and what works versus what doesn't in correctional settings
- ▶Nancy Panza introduces her background and expertise in forensic psychology0:00:00
- ▶Discussion about her work in federal, state, and county facilities with offenders0:05:00
- ▶Panza shares experiences consulting with major police departments0:15:00
- ▶Conversation turns to psychology of criminal behavior and what drives crime0:30:00
- ▶Discussion of rehabilitation approaches and what actually works in the system0:45:00
The Show
Joe sits down with Nancy Panza, a clinical and forensic psychologist who has spent her career working in the trenches of the criminal justice system. She's not some academic who just reads about crime in journals. Panza has actually worked inside county, state, and federal facilities, dealt directly with offenders, and consulted with major police departments. This gives her a unique perspective that goes way beyond theory.
What's interesting about Panza is she bridges the gap between academia and real-world application. She teaches at Cal State Fullerton as a professor, but she's also spent years providing forensic services and clinical work with both juvenile and adult offenders. That combination means she understands both the psychological principles and the practical reality of how the system actually works.
The conversation digs into what makes offenders tick, how psychological assessment is used in criminal justice, and what rehabilitation actually looks like when it works. Panza brings a lot of credibility to these topics because she's seen the patterns across multiple states and jurisdictions. Her work with NYPD, Alabama law enforcement, and Southern California agencies means she's observed how crime manifests differently across regions and populations.
One of the valuable things about this episode is getting insights from someone who's been embedded in the system rather than just studying it from the outside. Panza's clinical background means she understands the human element, not just the statistics. She's had to make real assessments about risk, behavior, and potential for change that actually impact people's lives and sentences.
Best Quotes
“I've worked in the actual system, not just studied it from a distance”
— Nancy Panza
From the JRE 1517 conversation with Nancy Panza.
“What we see in the research doesn't always match what's happening on the ground”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1517 conversation with Nancy Panza.
“Risk assessment is more art than science in many ways”
— Nancy Panza
From the JRE 1517 conversation with Nancy Panza.
“The biggest predictor of behavior is usually past behavior”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1517 conversation with Nancy Panza.
“Rehabilitation only works if people actually want to change”
— Nancy Panza
From the JRE 1517 conversation with Nancy Panza.