JRE 1564 · November 13, 2020

Adam Alter

psychologytechnologybusinesssciencehealth

Who is Adam Alter?

Adam Alter is a Professor of Marketing at New York University's Stern School of Business who studies the psychology of decision-making and behavioral economics. He is the author of two influential books, Drunk Tank Pink and Irresistible, with the latter exploring how technology companies design addictive products and the mechanisms that keep users hooked.

Topics and Timestamps

  • 01How tech companies deliberately design products to be psychologically addictive and habit-forming
  • 02The role of variable rewards and behavioral psychology in creating compulsive device use
  • 03Why smartphones and social media platforms are engineered to hijack human attention and dopamine systems
  • 04The difference between healthy habits and destructive addictions at a neurological level
  • 05Strategies individuals and parents can use to resist manipulative product design
  • 06How awareness of these mechanisms is the first step toward reclaiming control over technology use
  • Introduction to addictive technology design and variable rewards0:05:00
  • How social media companies use behavioral psychology to keep users engaged0:20:00
  • The difference between habits and addictions, and how technology exploits brain chemistry0:40:00
  • Impact of addictive technology on children and developing brains1:05:00
  • Strategies for resisting manipulative product design and reclaiming attention1:45:00

The Show

Adam Alter breaks down the uncomfortable truth about modern technology: it's designed to be addictive. He dives into the psychology and neuroscience behind why apps, social media, and smartphones are so hard to put down, and spoiler alert, it's not because they're just that good. Companies employ teams of engineers and psychologists specifically tasked with making their products impossible to resist.

The conversation explores how variable rewards work in the brain, similar to slot machines. When you don't know if your next notification will be interesting, your brain stays engaged and comes back for more. This is the same mechanism that makes gambling so addictive, except now it's baked into every app on your phone.

Alter explains that the line between a healthy habit and an addiction is when the behavior starts negatively impacting other areas of your life, but you continue anyway. With technology, this happens insidiously because the companies designing these products have massive resources and data to optimize engagement. They A/B test everything, tracking how users respond to notifications, color changes, and algorithm tweaks.

What makes this particularly dangerous is that younger brains are more vulnerable to these manipulations. Kids are growing up with devices that are specifically engineered by some of the smartest people on the planet to capture their attention. Parents are essentially fighting against billion-dollar companies when they try to limit screen time.

Alter also touches on how these companies have created a surveillance economy where your behavior is the product being sold to advertisers. Every click, pause, and swipe generates data that's used to make the product even more addictive. It's a feedback loop that benefits the company but extracts a psychological cost from users.

The key takeaway is that understanding these mechanisms is crucial. Once you know how manipulation works, you can start to resist it. It doesn't make the products less addictive, but awareness shifts your perspective from feeling weak-willed to recognizing that you're up against sophisticated design.

This episode is essential listening for anyone who feels like their phone controls them rather than the other way around, and it explains why setting boundaries with technology is harder than it should be.

Best Quotes

These products are designed by teams of engineers and psychologists whose job is to make them as addictive as possible

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From the JRE 1564 conversation with Adam Alter.

Variable rewards are the most addictive schedule of reinforcement because your brain never knows what's coming next

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 1564 conversation with Adam Alter.

You're not weak-willed if you can't put your phone down, you're up against billion-dollar companies optimizing for your engagement

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From the JRE 1564 conversation with Adam Alter.

The surveillance economy means your behavior is the product being sold to advertisers

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 1564 conversation with Adam Alter.

Awareness of how these mechanisms work is the first step toward reclaiming control over technology

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From the JRE 1564 conversation with Adam Alter.

Mentioned in This Episode

Books, supplements, gear, and other cool things that came up in conversation — not the podcast ads.

Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked

Amazon

A comprehensive exploration of how technology companies design addictive products and the psychological mechanisms that keep users hooked.

Drunk Tank Pink

Amazon

Adam Alter's first book exploring the psychology of decision-making and how environmental factors influence human behavior.

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