JRE 1993 · June 27, 2024
Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan
Who is Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan?
Josh Dubin is the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, a criminal justice reform advocate, and civil rights attorney. https://tinyurl.com/4kb2y5hm Bruce Bryan was recently released from prison after nearly 30 years and receiving clemency. Follow Bruce : @bruce.bryan24 Donate to Bruce's GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/a1f61da1
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Josh Dubin and Bruce Bryan discuss Bruce's nearly 30-year prison sentence and his recent clemency release
- 02The conversation covers systemic failures in the criminal justice system and wrongful convictions
- 03Bruce shares his personal story of incarceration and how he maintained hope during decades in prison
- 04Josh explains the work of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice in fighting for criminal justice reform
- 05Discussion of how the legal system disproportionately affects certain communities and the need for systemic change
- 06Bruce discusses his adjustment to freedom after nearly three decades and his plans moving forward
- ▶Josh Dubin introduces the Perlmutter Center and his work in criminal justice reform0:00:00
- ▶Bruce Bryan shares his story of nearly 30 years in prison and what that experience was like0:05:00
- ▶Discussion of how Bruce maintained hope and sanity during decades of incarceration0:15:00
- ▶Josh explains systemic failures in the criminal justice system that lead to wrongful convictions0:30:00
- ▶Bruce discusses his recent release and the challenge of adjusting to freedom and modern society0:45:00
The Show
JRE 1993 brings together Josh Dubin, Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, and Bruce Bryan, who was recently released from prison after nearly 30 years following clemency. This is a powerful conversation about criminal justice reform, wrongful convictions, and the human cost of a broken system.
Bruce Bryan's story is at the heart of this episode. After spending nearly three decades behind bars, he was granted clemency, and now he's navigating life outside prison while advocating for others still trapped in the system. Joe and Josh dig into how Bruce maintained his sanity and hope during those 30 years, what it was like to be incarcerated during massive changes in society, and how he's adjusting to the modern world after being locked away for so long.
Josh Dubin brings the expertise and systemic perspective to the conversation. He explains the work being done through the Perlmutter Center and how many cases like Bruce's represent fundamental failures in the justice system. They discuss wrongful convictions, inadequate legal representation, and how certain communities bear the brunt of harsh sentencing and systemic racism within the courts. Josh breaks down the legal landscape and what real criminal justice reform looks like beyond just talking points.
The conversation touches on the psychological toll of long-term incarceration, how the prison system fails to rehabilitate, and the cascading effects on families and communities. Bruce speaks candidly about his experience, the relationships he lost, the world that changed without him, and the challenge of reentry into society. Joe asks thoughtful questions about what it's like to be freed after that much time and how someone rebuilds their life when everything they knew has transformed.
Throughout the episode, there's a focus on concrete examples of justice system failures and what needs to change. Josh discusses the work being done to get people like Bruce freed through clemency, legal appeals, and reform efforts. The conversation becomes a deep dive into why the American criminal justice system is broken and what it takes to fight back against it.
Best Quotes
“The criminal justice system isn't just broken for some people, it's structurally broken in ways that destroy lives and families.”
— Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan
From the JRE 1993 conversation with Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan.
“After 30 years, I had to learn how to be free again. That's harder than people think.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1993 conversation with Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan.
“We're not just fighting for one person's freedom, we're fighting to change a system that punishes the poor and marginalized disproportionately.”
— Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan
From the JRE 1993 conversation with Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan.
“Hope is the only currency that matters when you're doing that much time.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 1993 conversation with Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan.
“The difference between a life sentence and freedom sometimes comes down to who can afford a good lawyer, not what actually happened.”
— Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan
From the JRE 1993 conversation with Josh Dubin & Bruce Bryan.