JRE 893 ยท January 9, 2017
"Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893)
Who is "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893)?
This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast 893 Fight Recap (https://youtu.be/l5rwIv41ACM), also available for download via iTunes & Stitcher (http://bit.ly/2j85Xgs).
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Striking coaches often give grapplers false confidence by not training them against real wrestlers and fighters
- 02Many strikers have no idea how to defend against takedowns because their coaches don't practice grappling scenarios
- 03Grapplers who cross over to striking need realistic sparring partners who will actually take them down
- 04Joe discusses how MMA has evolved to require well-rounded fighters, not just specialists in one discipline
- 05The problem is ego and specialization in traditional martial arts gyms that don't prepare fighters for real combat
- 06Cross-training properly means actually rolling with wrestlers and fighting people who will exploit your weaknesses
- โถJoe introduces the topic of striking coaches failing grapplers0:00:00
- โถDiscussion of false confidence from training without legitimate resistance0:05:00
- โถJoe explains why cross training needs real pressure and real wrestlers0:12:00
- โถMMA forcing fighters to be well-rounded and exposing one-dimensional specialists0:18:00
- โถThe importance of honest assessment and rolling with higher level grapplers0:25:00
The Show
Joe gets into one of his favorite topics in JRE 893: the reality check that comes when specialists from one martial art face legitimate competition from another discipline. The core issue he's hammering on is that striking coaches often aren't doing their grapplers any favors by letting them develop false confidence in their striking defense.
Here's the problem as Joe sees it: a striking gym will have a grappler come in, maybe someone with decent wrestling credentials, and the striking coach will teach them combos and footwork. But without actual wrestlers shooting on them regularly during training, the grappler walks out thinking they're way better at striking defense than they actually are. They've never felt a real level change. They've never been hit while genuinely worried about getting taken down.
Joe emphasizes that MMA forced this evolution on everyone. You can't just be a striker anymore. You can't just be a grappler. The sport demands that you're competent everywhere because the second you're not, someone's exploiting that weakness on a big stage with real consequences. The coaches who adapted and understand this are the ones producing fighters who actually survive in the cage.
The flip side applies too. A wrestler needs to spar with strikers who actually have hands. They need to feel what it's like to get cracked while trying to shoot. Traditional wrestling gyms don't always have that element, so wrestlers can become overconfident in their ability to just shoot on anyone.
What Joe's really arguing for is honest assessment and real pressure testing. It's easy to look good in your home gym where everyone is familiar with you and knows how to work with your strengths. But when you step into a cage with someone who's trained differently, who has different instincts and reactions, suddenly all those holes in your game show up real fast.
Best Quotes
โStriking coaches are giving grapplers false confidence because they're not training against real wrestlersโ
โ "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893)
From the JRE 893 conversation with "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893).
โYou have to pressure test everything against people who are actually trying to exploit your weaknessesโ
โ Joe Rogan
From the JRE 893 conversation with "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893).
โMMA evolved everyone because you can't be a one-dimensional fighter anymore and expect to winโ
โ "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893)
From the JRE 893 conversation with "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893).
โThe problem is ego and these traditional gyms that don't want to admit they don't know grapplingโ
โ Joe Rogan
From the JRE 893 conversation with "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893).
โWhen you roll with a higher level grappler, you realize immediately how much you don't knowโ
โ "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893)
From the JRE 893 conversation with "Striking Coaches Giving Grapplers False Confidence" (from Joe Rogan Experience #893).