JRE 0 · September 22, 2023
Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson
Who is Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson?
Taken from JRE MMA Show 146 w/Francis Ngannou:
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Francis Ngannou explains his decision to leave the UFC and pursue boxing opportunities with better financial terms
- 02Discussion of signing to fight Tyson Fury and what that massive crossover bout means for combat sports
- 03Ngannou talks about training with Mike Tyson and what he learned from one of boxing's greatest fighters
- 04The business side of MMA vs boxing and why fighters need leverage to get paid what they're worth
- 05Ngannou's perspective on his legacy in the UFC and what he accomplished as heavyweight champion
- 06The future of combat sports and how crossover fights between boxing and MMA are changing the landscape
- ▶Francis explains why he left the UFC0:05:30
- ▶Discussion of the Tyson Fury contract and fight announcement0:18:45
- ▶Training with Mike Tyson and what that experience taught him0:32:00
- ▶Ngannou breaks down the money difference between UFC and boxing0:44:15
- ▶The future of crossover fights between MMA and boxing0:58:30
The Show
Francis Ngannou sits down with Joe to break down one of the biggest moves in combat sports: leaving the UFC to pursue boxing and sign a deal to fight Tyson Fury. This isn't just about money, though the financial disparity between what the UFC pays and what boxers make is a massive part of the conversation. Ngannou lays out how the UFC structure keeps fighters locked in without real negotiating power, and how boxing offers a completely different economic model where fighters can actually get paid like the draws they are.
The conversation digs into what it was like training with Mike Tyson, who apparently took Ngannou under his wing to help prepare him for the boxing world. Tyson's insights and mentorship carry weight that goes beyond just technical boxing tips. There's something about learning from a guy who dominated his sport and dealt with the same business pressures that makes this training relationship special.
Ngannou doesn't trash the UFC in some bitter way. Instead, he presents it as a business decision. He's been the heavyweight champion, he's defended his belt, he's done the work. Now he wants to explore what else is possible. The Tyson Fury fight represents something bigger than just one boxing match it's about proving that elite combat athletes can compete across different rule sets and organizations. It's about leverage. It's about getting paid. And it's about the evolution of combat sports where the best fighters can chase opportunities instead of being locked into one organization forever.
Joe and Francis have a real conversation here about the business of fighting, the toll of competing at the highest level, and what comes next for a guy who's already achieved everything in MMA. The boxing world is watching, the MMA world is watching, and Ngannou's about to show everyone what he can do with his hands in a different ruleset.
Best Quotes
“I had to make a decision for myself and my family about what's best for my future”
— Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson
From the JRE 0 conversation with Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson.
“The UFC structure keeps you in a box where you don't have real negotiating power”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson.
“Training with Mike Tyson is like getting a masterclass from somebody who lived through everything I'm about to face”
— Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson
From the JRE 0 conversation with Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson.
“This fight with Tyson Fury is bigger than just me or him, it's about proving something for the sport”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson.
“I achieved everything in MMA, now I want to see what I can do in boxing”
— Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson
From the JRE 0 conversation with Francis Ngannou on Leaving the UFC, Signing Tyson Fury Fight, and Training with Mike Tyson.