JRE 0 · July 26, 2022

Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service

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Who is Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service?

Taken from JRE 1847 w/Theo Von:

Topics and Timestamps

  • 01Joe and Theo Von examine TikTok's terms of service and discuss the alarming data collection practices buried in the fine print
  • 02The conversation reveals how TikTok collects biometric data including facial recognition and voice identification from users
  • 03Joe explains how TikTok's algorithm is designed to be addictive and how it targets younger demographics
  • 04Discussion of how TikTok can access user location data, contacts, and device information without explicit permission
  • 05Theo and Joe talk about the geopolitical implications of a Chinese-owned company having access to American user data
  • 06The episode covers what users can actually do to protect their privacy and whether it's even possible to use TikTok safely
  • Joe starts reading TikTok's terms of service and immediately finds concerning data collection clauses0:00:30
  • Discussion of facial recognition and biometric data collection embedded in TikTok's policies0:12:45
  • Theo Von and Joe discuss how the algorithm is designed to be addictive and target younger users0:24:20
  • Conversation about geopolitical implications of Chinese ownership and government data access0:38:15
  • Joe and Theo explore what users can actually do to protect their privacy from TikTok0:52:00

The Show

In this episode, Joe dives into the murky world of TikTok's terms of service with Theo Von, and what they find is genuinely disturbing. The whole thing starts pretty innocent, like Joe's just gonna read through some boring legal stuff, but then they start noticing all these clauses that basically amount to TikTok having permission to collect basically everything about you. We're talking facial recognition, biometric data, your location, your contacts, literally everything on your phone.

What's wild is how buried all this stuff is in the terms of service. Like, the average person is never going to read through hundreds of pages of legal jargon to find out that an app is essentially taking a complete digital snapshot of their life. Joe points out how this is different from other social media platforms because TikTok is owned by a Chinese company, ByteDance, which means all this data is potentially available to the Chinese government. Theo brings up some good points about how addictive the algorithm is designed to be and how it specifically targets kids and teenagers.

The conversation gets into the broader implications of having a foreign government with access to biometric data on millions of Americans. Joe's not being paranoid about this either, it's literally in the terms of service. They talk about how the algorithm learns your preferences, your behaviors, what makes you tick, and then uses that information to keep you scrolling. It's basically surveillance capitalism on steroids.

Towards the end, they discuss whether there's even a point in trying to protect your privacy when using TikTok because the damage is already done if you've ever installed the app. The episode wraps up with some thoughts on what regulations might actually be necessary and whether the government is going to do anything about it. It's the kind of conversation that makes you want to delete the app immediately, but then you realize half the country is already hooked on it anyway.

Best Quotes

This is basically surveillance capitalism with a geopolitical twist because it's a Chinese company

Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service

From the JRE 0 conversation with Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service.

They know everything about you before you even know it about yourself

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 0 conversation with Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service.

The algorithm doesn't just show you what you want to see, it figures out what will make you addicted

Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service

From the JRE 0 conversation with Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service.

These terms of service are designed so nobody will actually read them

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 0 conversation with Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service.

Once they have your biometric data, that's it, there's no getting it back

Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service

From the JRE 0 conversation with Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service.