JRE 0 · January 30, 2021

LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining

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Who is LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining?

This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience 1604 with Jamar Neighbors. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6zsloyDGxz43eUqTjp9Udg?si=_srVEgxdTj-xPExOLpbLNg

Topics and Timestamps

  • 01LA passed a bizarre outdoor dining regulation that bans televisions from being visible from the street
  • 02The rule was ostensibly created to improve the dining experience and reduce visual pollution in neighborhoods
  • 03Business owners are frustrated because they can't show sports games or entertainment to customers eating outside
  • 04The regulation highlights how out-of-touch local government can be with what actually bothers people
  • 05Joe and Jamar discuss how these kinds of arbitrary rules kill small business viability in LA
  • 06The conversation touches on the broader problem of overregulation making it impossible to run a simple restaurant
  • Jamar explains LA's outdoor dining TV ban0:05:30
  • Joe questions who actually complained about visible TVs0:08:15
  • Discussion of how this impacts sports bars and casual restaurants0:12:40
  • Joe and Jamar connect this to broader LA overregulation problems0:16:20
  • The conversation about government being disconnected from reality0:20:00

The Show

In JRE 1604 with Jamar Neighbors, Joe and his guest dive into one of LA's most ridiculous recent regulations: a ban on televisions being visible from outdoor dining areas. On the surface, it sounds like the city was trying to create some kind of zen dining experience free from screen distraction, but the actual impact is way more stupid than the intention.

The rule basically makes it illegal for restaurants to have TVs viewable from the street or outdoor seating areas. This sounds harmless until you realize that most casual restaurants rely on having sports on the TV as a draw for customers. Guys want to grab a beer and watch the game, families want background entertainment. It's not some crazy demand. But LA decided this was visual pollution that needed to be eliminated.

What makes this conversation so classic Joe is how he and Jamar use it as a jumping off point to talk about the bigger picture of how local governments in places like LA have become completely disconnected from what's actually reasonable. No one was calling the city complaining about being traumatized by seeing a TV through a restaurant window. But somewhere a city council member decided this was a priority, and now business owners have to deal with another layer of compliance and restriction.

The discussion gets at something real about why it's becoming harder to run small businesses in California. It's not just the big stuff like taxes and labor laws. It's these papercuts. A thousand little rules that each seem minor but add up to making it nearly impossible to just open a simple restaurant and run it without worrying about whether your outdoor TV setup is technically in violation of some arbitrary code.

Joe brings his typical skepticism to the table, asking the obvious questions nobody apparently asked in city hall: who cares, why does this matter, who complained about this. Jamar adds his perspective on how these regulations impact actual business owners trying to make a living. It's a perfect example of how government overreach doesn't always look like a boot on your neck. Sometimes it looks like some bureaucrat deciding that TVs at outdoor dining establishments are ruining LA's aesthetic vibe.

Best Quotes

They banned TVs from outdoor dining areas like someone was getting hurt by seeing a screen

LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining

From the JRE 0 conversation with LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining.

This is what happens when you let people with no actual business experience make business regulations

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 0 conversation with LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining.

Nobody woke up and said I'm moving away because I saw a TV through a restaurant window

LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining

From the JRE 0 conversation with LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining.

It's a thousand paper cuts, not one big cut, that kills small business in LA

Joe Rogan

From the JRE 0 conversation with LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining.

The government has no idea what people actually want or need

LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining

From the JRE 0 conversation with LA's Weird TV Ban for Outdoor Dining.