JRE 0 · August 12, 2021
Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent
Who is Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent?
Taken from JRE 1695 w/Andrew Schulz:
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Olympic karate competitor gets knocked out cold during match but opponent gets disqualified for the knockout
- 02The KO'd athlete still receives the gold medal despite being unconscious
- 03Joe and Andrew discuss how absurd the rule is that penalizes effective striking in a combat sport
- 04The incident highlights the disconnect between karate competition rules and actual martial arts effectiveness
- 05Discussion about how different combat sports handle knockouts and what constitutes a legitimate win
- 06Andrew Schulz shares his perspective on the ridiculousness of penalizing someone for actually winning the fight
- ▶Joe and Andrew start discussing the Olympic karate knockout incident0:00:00
- ▶Explanation of how the knockout resulted in disqualification instead of victory0:05:30
- ▶Discussion of the absurdity that the knocked-out opponent received the gold medal0:12:15
- ▶Comparison to other combat sports that properly reward knockouts0:18:45
- ▶Andrew's take on how Olympic karate has become disconnected from actual martial arts0:25:00
The Show
Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz dive into one of the most bizarre moments in Olympic karate history where a competitor literally knocked out their opponent, got disqualified for it, and the person who got knocked unconscious ended up with the gold medal. It's the kind of thing that sounds made up but actually happened, and it perfectly encapsulates how weird Olympic karate rules can be.
The core issue here is that Olympic karate has evolved into this point-based system that prioritizes control and technique over actual effectiveness. So when one competitor lands a shot so clean that it literally puts their opponent to sleep, the officials see it as excessive and disqualify them. Meanwhile, the person who got completely knocked out still wins because they had more points before getting their bell rung. It's completely backwards from how literally every other combat sport works.
Joe and Andrew go back and forth on how insane this is. In boxing, MMA, kickboxing, basically anything where people actually fight, a knockout is the ultimate victory. It ends the fight immediately and there's no question about who won. But in Olympic karate, it's treated like a penalty. You're essentially punished for being too effective at actually striking your opponent. It's like the sport went out of its way to reward the opposite of what martial arts are supposed to be about.
The conversation touches on how Olympic karate has become more about performing flashy techniques that score points rather than actual combat effectiveness. A spinning back kick that barely grazes someone might score more points than a solid punch to the face, which is completely backwards. The sport has essentially gamified itself away from reality.
Andrew brings up the absurdity of it all with his typical comedic take, but the underlying point is serious. If you're running a combat sport, you should probably reward people for actually winning fights, not penalize them. The image of the knocked-out champion holding their gold medal while the person who knocked them out got disqualified is almost too perfect as a metaphor for how disconnected from reality these rules have become.
Best Quotes
“How do you get disqualified for knocking someone out in a combat sport? That makes no sense.”
— Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent
From the JRE 0 conversation with Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent.
“The person who got knocked out won the gold medal. That's insane.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent.
“Olympic karate has completely lost the plot with these rules.”
— Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent
From the JRE 0 conversation with Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent.
“In every real fighting sport, a knockout is the best thing that can happen. Here it's a penalty.”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent.
“This is what happens when you try to make fighting into a point-scoring game instead of actual combat.”
— Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent
From the JRE 0 conversation with Olympic Karate KO Results in DQ, Gold Medal for KO’d Opponent.