JRE 0 · November 8, 2021
Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy
Who is Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy?
Taken from JRE 1731 w/Theo Von:
Topics and Timestamps
- 01Theo Von discusses his experience undergoing ketamine therapy for depression and mental health
- 02Joe and Theo explore how ketamine works differently than traditional antidepressants
- 03Theo describes the actual experience of ketamine infusions and what it felt like
- 04They discuss the emerging science around ketamine as a legitimate medical treatment
- 05Theo talks about how the therapy affected his perspective and mental state going forward
- 06The conversation touches on the stigma around ketamine and why it's becoming mainstream medicine
- ▶Theo describes his first ketamine infusion experience0:15:32
- ▶Joe and Theo discuss how ketamine differs from traditional antidepressants0:28:45
- ▶Theo explains the mental shifts and perspective changes after therapy0:42:18
- ▶Discussion about ketamine's emergence as legitimate medical treatment0:55:30
- ▶Theo talks about breaking through depression and what changed in his thinking1:08:15
The Show
Theo Von opens up about his journey with ketamine therapy, a treatment that's gaining legitimate medical recognition but still carries heavy stigma from its past as a club drug. Joe asks Theo to break down exactly what the experience was like, and Theo doesn't hold back about the surreal nature of the infusions. He explains how ketamine works on the brain differently than SSRIs and other traditional antidepressants, creating new neural pathways rather than just managing serotonin levels.
The conversation goes deep into why ketamine is such a game changer for treatment-resistant depression. Theo describes the actual sessions where he'd sit in a clinic chair while the drug entered his system, talking about the dissociative feeling and how it wasn't like taking pills at home. Joe is genuinely curious about the science and keeps pushing Theo to explain exactly what changed in his brain and his thinking patterns.
They discuss how wild it is that a drug once associated with raves and K-holes is now being administered by doctors in clinical settings with measurable therapeutic results. Theo talks about the mental shifts he experienced after treatment, the way his perspective on things shifted, and how it gave him tools he didn't have before. The conversation touches on how people are still weird about ketamine even though the clinical data supports its effectiveness for people who haven't responded to traditional treatments.
Joe brings up the broader question of why medicine takes so long to catch up to what actually works, and Theo's story is a perfect example of someone who needed something unconventional. They explore the philosophical side too, about consciousness and how ketamine affects your perception of self and your problems. It's one of those JRE conversations where a guest is genuinely sharing something vulnerable and educational while Joe asks all the questions a curious person would actually want answered.
Best Quotes
“Ketamine is one of those things that seems crazy until you realize it actually works”
— Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy
From the JRE 0 conversation with Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy.
“The difference is it's not just managing your brain chemistry, it's rebuilding neural pathways”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy.
“You go into these sessions and you're not yourself for a bit, but you come out different”
— Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy
From the JRE 0 conversation with Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy.
“It's wild that we had this medicine the whole time but it took forever for medicine to accept it”
— Joe Rogan
From the JRE 0 conversation with Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy.
“After the treatments, I could think about things differently instead of just managing the depression”
— Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy
From the JRE 0 conversation with Theo Von Tried Ketamine Therapy.